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    do u think BDS doctor works on different aspect of dentistry but after doing MDS the person limits or get limited to specialised work…..

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    it also depends on the speciality. You cannot compare oral and maxillofacial surgery with oral pathology.

    I would recommend that GDP’s take plenty of CE so that they can continously introduce newer modalities in their practices. This would reduce their dependence on specialists.

    For those who do not have the time or the energy to continously take CE they can call specialists in their clinics or refer the patient.

    Whether the patient is being treated by a BDS or by an MDS the standard of care expectations is always of the specialists level.

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    Veeren

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    thanx sir for your view,

    i being a oral and maxillofacial surgeron, feels and experienced that when a patient goes to a clinic, very few bds doc calls a speciaist as he has to pay him cuts and he/she is least bothered of quality treatment provided…..

    they call only wen the land up in some prob…i dnt knw wether u have experienced or not , but i have been in such situation many times wer i had to handle such cases..

    its not the doctor fault, i personally feel ,juss like there is awarness in medical field (that if leg fracture is there go to ortho, if preg go to gynac,,,) there should be awrness in dentistry too……

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    You have to persist. You cannot expect immediate results.

    It takes a lifetime to build up a practice.

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    veeren

    thanx sir for your view,

    i being a oral and maxillofacial surgeron, feels and experienced that when a patient goes to a clinic, very few bds doc calls a speciaist as he has to pay him cuts and he/she is least bothered of quality treatment provided…..

    they call only wen the land up in some prob…i dnt knw wether u have experienced or not , but i have been in such situation many times wer i had to handle such cases..

    its not the doctor fault, i personally feel ,juss like there is awarness in medical field (that if leg fracture is there go to ortho, if preg go to gynac,,,) there should be awrness in dentistry too……

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    With due respect to drsumit i would just like to add that people will cal for help in trouble and i see no harm if someone turns to someone for help, of course, you cant blame someone for trying their hand at a particular case …also if it was possible all of us would be mds but unluckily our country lacks in seats and is rich in other matters…everyone cannot be a specialist

    I believe that whether you are a BDS or MDS doesnt matter as long as we deliver what we have to..
    All we have to do is respect one another and not look down on anyone

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    hi mithila….

    hey u are taking me wrong..i neva blamed BDS ..i juss said in my first post that bds works in different specialitty of dentistry and whereas MDS juss limited to there specialisation, eitjer due to lack of general practise in 3 to 4 years or they dnt want to….i think the discussion is goin in different way all together, its about bringing the dental faternity together for its betterment not creating rift between BDS n MDS…and as u said abt rich and limited seats…i too dnt have rich family and u cant blame abt limited seats of u not doin mds..its juss about intrest and potential….dnt take me wrong..

    i said want to say one thing…"a single dirty fish in a pond will spoil the whole pond" so i think u should be smart enuf to understand it

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    hi mithilia

    i will be always there to help ppl in trouble..but as u said no harm in trying diff cases…i neva said no…but u shld be efficient enuf then to handle the complications.many CE progams are conducted attend dem and be efficent rather than experimeting on the clincial patient…that not all makes u efficent but also keeps uo the reputataion of the profession…

    wat will be difference between a educated doctor and a qwack……

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    No clinician can exactly infer by having a first look at the case if he’ll be able to give the best treatment..I personally think that a clinician should go ahead and start with the treatment and if he gets stuck somewhere in between he can always turn to the specialist..I feel there is nothing wrong in trying out your hand on your patient..Either ways the clinician is getting to learn something and that should be his motive rather than being able to avoid paying the specialist..

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    mr sushant,

    its good if u think that way…but not all think way u think Mr. and to make it very clear if u cant diagnose wether the case is to be done as team work or individually a then i feel u need to be more trained..sorry buddy…but its true…as a clinician u should knw wat diffiucltes u can face. unexpected arrivals we cant avoid but the ones which we knw will have to be faced then why take chances and make patient waiting until the specialist comes..do u think thats good…may be call someone and do it infront of him if u want to learn dat would be a better option…

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    No clinician can exactly infer by having a first look at the case if he’ll be able to give the best treatment..I personally think that a clinician should go ahead and start with the treatment and if he gets stuck somewhere in between he can always turn to the specialist..I feel there is nothing wrong in trying out your hand on your patient..Either ways the clinician is getting to learn something and that should be his motive rather than being able to avoid paying the specialist..

    i would strongly disagree. Do not initiate any treatment unless u r sure that u would be able to deliver the best. Remember u are treating the patient and not learning. In spite of ur best efforts things might go wrong and than the specialists can be called for.

    If u r not sure better to refer.

    especially in impactions, implants , ortho u have to be very careful.

    I would advise everybody to do very through WRITTEN MICROPLANNING of the case. If u r doing a mesio angular impaction than draw on the OPG the contours of the root and the inferior alveolar canal.

    On a piece of paper write down the steps,, the kind of incision, how much bone cutting u have to do, the expected time for the same, suturing, complications expected etc. etc etc.

    The more the gory details the better. This will help u to get a clear idea whether u should handle the case or refer to a specialist.

    Never take a chance. Remember the patient is buying treatment and is not paying u to learn dentistry on him.

    Rergards,

    Veeren

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    I agree with veeren sir about the written planning we should follow…
    this site is working for exactly the same point..making better clinicians as well as diminishing discrepancies and solving queries by bringing all clinicians BDS/MDS on the same platform to share what they know

    Thank you drsumit this is a good point you have raised to share and this is plainly a discussion and no offence taken whatsoever:)

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    I agree with Dr. Sumit…performing the procedure under the guidance of a specialist is the ideal thing if you can manage to get one to guide you through the procedure…I am happy that this portal is helping us out to openly discuss such topics…thanks Dr. Sumit for your inputs…looking forward to more posts from you..

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    dr sushant/mithilia

    thanx for appreciating my views…intially the discussion on this topic got personal regarding BDS & MDS. but i neva wanted to..i hope now u got my point and everything us clear..its no shame to get help from someone who knws hw to hadle that case well ….rather than gettin into a scenario wer u feel helpless keep a better person beside u….

    one more things many MDS will be there who are worst of a teacher, i dnt knw why they dnt want to teach others,its not that BDS will do everything of their speciality but god has sent some of those kinds in those world and they should be thrown out from the acdemic field,,,wen u enter into academic u should be a academician rather than thinking abt their profits,,,,i have few personal exp..

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